Is Finland an Ally of Nazi Germany? – Carl Gustaf Mannerheim – WW2 Biography Special



Carl Gustaf Mannerheim is a national hero after his service in everything from the Finnish Civil War to the Winter War. But did he plan a war of aggression with Nazi Germany against the Soviet Union? And if so, did Hitler and Stalin even give him any choice in the matter?

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Hosted by: Indy Neidell
Written by: Francis van Berkel
Director: Astrid Deinhard
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Post-Production Director: Wieke Kapteijns
Research by: Francis van Berkel, Dominic Saari & Akseli Saarinen
Edited by: Miki Cackowski
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23 comments

  1. The story surrounding that secret recording of Hitler's speech really is a fascinating piece of history that we unfortunately didn't really have the space to get into in this episode. It is thanks to Thor Damen that we have them. Apparently when the SS guards realized what he was doing they silently signaled a cutthroat gesture to him.

    The rest of the story you'll have to look up yourself. The recording itself is very easy to find on YouTube so go check it out if you haven't heard it already, the softness of Hitler's voice really will surprise you.

    Something else may surprise you, but it really shouldn't by now. We have rules of conduct. Please keep to them when commenting: https://community.timeghost.tv/t/rules-of-conduct/4518

  2. A very unreliable German ally, that thinks it could use Germany to achieve its war objectives even without a German victory.

  3. Finnish president Risto Ryti made deal with germans, so called Ribbentrob treaty, deal that he didn't have legal authority to do. Naziz thought he as president had authority.

  4. Someone said he summoned all Finland… My sis is not here! Oh hi sis! Cousin is not! That one hes swedish.. Oh but thats My Finnish one

  5. Churchill is "forced" to declare war. Cute. This drunk lowlife declares war against a fellow democracy (instead of helping it )that is being attacked by his great friends the communists. But Finland is not "forced" to join war after Soviet attack plans are put into action on 25.06.1941 and Finnish cities are bombed. On June 25 soviet front is collapsing everywhere, but soviet commanders have just opened the envelopes of the orders to start their operation "Groza" anyway (sceduled originally for August 8-th) including the orders to attack Finland. Finns have to apologise for the only country willing to help them to survive, while the British are "forced" to save the communist cannibals. 25 000 German men died for Finlands independence that was preserved thanks to German help, so lets not pretend as if Finns owe you Brits or Americans anything. You should be ashamed of your actions in this war, not the Finns.

  6. Of course we were forced to be allies with Germany. No way we could have gotten military help from anyone else, since Russia that wanted to annex Finland was one of the allied forces.

    Also true at the same time, is that Mannerheim was a warcrazy egomaniac. But he also did what was needed for Finland to uphold it’s independence. His status as a hero war lord is very deserved in that sense.

    Sure he promised Hitler our help and coopperation. But everyone in Finland knew he was lying, and never even intended to keep his word.

  7. The story of the secret Finno-German collaboration in WWII is highly complicated, not least because official Finland has consistently tried to deny it since 1940. I suggest reading the book "Hitler's Nordic Ally?", as indeed the makers of the video seem to have because it's pretty much the only one available on the issue in English. (Currently, 209 Finnish nay-sayers prefer to remain in their patriotic dreamland.)

  8. For the question presented in the title, there is a simple quick answer: Yes. Finland was allied with Nazi-Germany, but truth is Finland didn't have much of a choice. The rest that there is to know is just books in a library, there is the real literature, there is the fiction, and then there is politics right in between the comic section and fiction.

  9. As a Finn, I must say yeah we were. But we didn't have much choice, and we wanted payback after Stalin's attack on our small country. People were afraid of another attack and occupation, it was a pre-emptive strike. It's kinda like US allied with the Soviets, but turned against them right after the war. When the world is in flames, you can't be too picky about how to extinguish it

  10. To give some context, East karelia (as well as some other areas in Russia) was historically populated by Finns (Karelians) before the Russian expansion. So even tough the unified Finnish nation state didn't exist before the fall of the Russian Empire, those lands were essentially ''taken'' from the Finns. That is why Mannerheim wanted to ''free East Karelia'' 🙂

  11. The thing about east-karelia is that while it never was a part of the country of finland, it was a part of the grand duchy of finland (finland under russian rule). And parts even further in russian territory like ingria had a lot of finnish people who moved there while finland was a part of sweden.

  12. What exactly would you have done if in the same position and when thinking of your country? A major power had attacked you in 1939 and you stopped it with almost last reserves after three long months of major fighting, and Stalin got rumors of Anglo-French intervention as they say. The Soviets lost around 38 000 dead per month during this war, same as German armed forces during their time in Russia. Germany was the only country to offer real, major help in terms of weapons and men, that would realize 100%. Finland as a sovereign and independent country had the right to stay so in the future as well, Finland never threatened anyone with its five million population. Any, any country would have done the same, I know some Western powers would have needed to step up to the Soviet Union during Paris Treaty discussions of 1947. I mean, the Soviets started an illegal invasion in 1939 and took 10% percent of area of Finland like robbers, including Finland’s second largest city. All the other countries that had been attacked, like Poland got their areas back with interest.

    If Finland wouldn't have had the support from Germany it would have been overrun 1941-1944 and became communist and behind iron curtain, like Baltics and so many others. Finland was right next to the Soviet Union with over 1300 km of border with them! Just because we cared for our country and did like proper men should, we were sanctioned that harshly, what the hell was that about. We never even had an official treaty of alliance written on paper with Germany, unlike Hungary, Romania, Italy etc. All the others. Only mutual interests because Soviets had succeeded making us enemy of theirs by attacking us in 1939, by the way that would ultimately cost them around 470 000 Soviet soldiers dead while we lost 96 000 fallen during the war(s). They never cared about their population, they were as bad dictatorship as Nazi-Germany. The outcome of the war has never been considered fair in Finland, that you can practically wage a war of aggression and conquest in modern times and get away with it! In Europe. Shame on those who allowed this to happen.

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